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Has anyone had any channels come through?

evil_fish — Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:02:56 GMT

Hi,

It just occured to me to ask if anyone has had any channeled entities come through in their lives?

Just wondering...

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Technical problem with time and evolution

ENIAD — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:13:25 GMT

The mechanics of time evade me. If all my past personnalities are evolving at the same time and learning from one another then the past is not a static entity. It also makes it very complicated to follow as having learned from present experiences, past one become redondant. It must all ricochet in a strange way.
On the other hand, reality appears stable.
As a matter of fact, I wonder what we are still doing here now since it has been resolved somewhere in time.

I just lost my (time) marbles on this. How does it all mesh together?

But great stuff for a novel!

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Love & Enjoyment

yair — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:40:04 GMT

What does Seth has to say about that ?

http://people.tribe.net/yair/blog/6e6c737a-1048-43c3-9f2f-161963c93e93

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Seth sleep schedule

Jason — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:59:42 GMT

I've been doing the sleep schedule that was mentioned in Seth Speaks (two blocks of 3 hours). So far (a couple of weeks) it's been good, though I'm also getting off of a medication that impacts various aspects of my sleep ... I'm not very good at doing one thing at a time. :)
I was wondering if anyone else here has had any experience with doing this sleep thing, and could share that experience?
So far for me, I've found that I have more time to do things (side benefit), but in addition to that, the duality that's existed between my sleep and awakened state has been reduced. I'm remembering a lot more of my dreams, and have actually had some pretty heavy development over the course of time thus far. In one dream I became conscious of the fact that what I was thinking was shaping the world (or dream) around me, and had a few other gains. In another dream I became aware of the fact that I was dreaming, and started to shape my dream using techniques I learned in an astral projection group I attended not too long ago.
I have a lot of faith in the ideas that have been presented in this book. They feel right to me. Some of them I had already been aware of before reading the book, having time to gain experience that validated them in my mind.
I guess part of me is a little concerned ... I haven't read much about people who have done this sleep thing, so I just wanted to see who out there has. There are studies out there that indicate that doing something like this could be unhealthy. Of course, there are studies out there that could probably used to advocate against any practice, so it's not like what I've read necessarily has any validity.

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Aspect Psychology

Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:33:24 GMT

What is it?

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Chaos

Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:59:07 GMT

To my brothers & sisters that have studied Seth longer then I, what is Seth's veiws on Chaos?

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How much conscious reality can we create in our individual lives?

ENIAD — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:08:17 GMT

It is an individual and collective game.

How far can we stretch it personally?

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Other People Who Know What I'm Talking About!!

ize — Sun, 02 Apr 2006 00:39:02 GMT

I have been studying (and has it been study) Seth for 10 years or so, and had begun to despair of finding anyone else who didn't move a step away from me when I start babbling about reality.

I am very excited.

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The difference between belief and delusion...

ENIAD — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:55:20 GMT

If we create reality according to our beliefs, why aren't hypocondriacs really sick?

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Karma

Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:57:27 GMT

What is it?

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Nature of Personal Reality

Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:07:20 GMT

You know that I searched and could not find a seth tribe, and here it was all the time. However, since I could not find one, I created one of my own, http://tribes.tribe.net/natureofpersonalreality. I hope that we can exchange ideas and such concerning Seth. I added this to my tribe list so hopfully you guys can do the same with nature.

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How alive is Seth???

prayoga — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:23:37 GMT

For me Seth is still very alive since 1989 every day. I heared many new ways of telling the universe since but Seth is still the major point of: "Ohhh I know allready!!!"
Lately they gave me a copy of "The Secret"..... pffffffff there was no secret there...even not a teaching... Seth is still my basic.
For me the secret was about getting more for people who have allready everything... I found it horrible.
Seth is about... being, about celebratoing all that is and not more. Not about greed but about gratitude... Not about wanting but about wondering what you make. Not about more but about creative... well anyway... SETH IS ALIVE!!!! Lets hear it!

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A tribe on reality creation

ENIAD — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:47:57 GMT

Another place to gab: a tribe on reality creation that espouse Sethian concepts and that of other writers such as Richard Bach.

http://tribes.tribe.net/natureofpersonalreality

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The Coming Of Seth

evil_fish — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:37:16 GMT

I just finished reading "The coming of Seth."

This might be my least favorite of the Seth series so far. I guess what bothered me the most was the insistance of Jane Roberts to adhere to scientific principles while try to develope your ESP powers. As she went on (other books), it seems she felt less of a need to "prove" anything to the scientific community.

It would be nice to see just the Seth parts of the book condensed into a single chapter.

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on practicing the exercises

carey — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:13:25 GMT

I have been reading Seth books for about a year now, and have yet to meet someone who is also a Seth fan. I have spent many hours trying to explain some of the Seth world, but it is hard to do so. I am thankful to find a tribe of people who I can share things with without feeling like people are thinking Im whacked. I want to share an experience I had in my dreamworld. One of Seth's reccomendations is to practice working with the dreamworld by realizing we are in complete control of our dreams. Sounds great, but i always find myself waking up AFTER the dream and wishing I had remembered that DURING the dream. Well, one night it worked. In the middle of a dream, I realized I was dreaming and remembered to practice what Seth had suggested. I held out my hand, fully concious, and told myself to envision and apple appearing in my hand. I was concentrating very hard, and slowly and apple appeared. I was so excited, still dreaming, and tried out another visualization. It took a while, maybe 30 to 60 seconds, it seemed like, but I was able to do it. Then I think I got so excited that I woke myself up. I haven't done it since, but am waiting to remember in a future dream. Anyone else have a similar experience????

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What is the deal with emotions?

ENIAD — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:54:23 GMT

What is the Sethian vision on emotions and how they should be dealth with?

I remember that they should'nt be repressed and left to fester but what exactly are we supposed to do with them the rest of the time?

Emotions, of course, cover a broad spectrum: love, rage, fear, happiness, sadness, anger...

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A Dream Connection

evil_fish — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:30:48 GMT

Hi All,

I thought I'd post this scenario that occured today.

I have been reading "Adventures In Consciousness" and "Unknown Reality" this summer. As always, at least I do, when you read a Seth book, you feel like you are getting a private lesson. And Seth, himself, states that just by reading, you are opening up to a larger reality.

I have been trying to put to use one of the exercises in "Unknown Reality". It is quite simple. Werever you are in a dream, look around. Try to expand the scene. Look up down, try to locate exits.

So there I was in my dream state last night. I can kind of sense when dream time is almost over. Dreams return more to a familiar place and speed up. In this case I was walking down the sidewalk by a bar and someone yelled out "Randy!" I stopped and tried to look in the bar. I was sure there were windows (or should be windows) but all the figures inside were painted with a dark brush. I could not make out who called my name. So I woke up.

Along goes my day. I work, I come home. After dinner, I am drawn to the garden. I planted about three tomatoe plants and about three more came up on their own. These plants are taller than me now and producing fruit at an amazing rate. I have been giving a lot away. After a short round of picking, my tray is full and I remember someone else I want to give tomatoes to and prepare a couple of bags.

I am ready to leave with my goods and I look under the truck and there is that unmistakable pool of liquid under the engine that tells me I have a cooling system leak. Man am I mad. I just wanted to live my life and visit and give. But now I am stuck trying to fix this thing, if I can. I trace the leak to the bottom hose and figure the hose is blown, but I can not find a hole. I tug on the clamp and it crumbles in my hand. I am relieved that the leak is not a blown hose or cracked radiator. So I head to the parts shop and proceed to by a new hose clamp.

On my way out of the auto parts store I am kind of looking down (not realy following Seth's advise on looking around - Is waking reality that different from dream reality?). The parts store is up on a hill compared tot he parking lot, so you have a slight incline as you approach the store. As I am looking down my eyesight falls upon the T-shirt of an approaching fellow. It says "Alice Donut".

I knew that name, it was the name of a band that use to play in a local club (the members would stay at our house when they passed through town), and we walked past each other, but kind of slow. The guy calls out "Randy?" And I look up and see that it is a freind of an old roommate who used to visit a lot. We chat and part, but I am sure that it must have been Jay who called out to me in my dream.

To quote Dela Soul "What does it all mean?"

I feel like I made some kind of connection and recognized the connection all in one conscious cycle. But where does that get me? I still feel like I am hiding something from myself; in a way...

Seth states that there will always be a "veil" between our inner self and ego consciousness. Which, to me, means that dreams will always be ellusive.

Just thought I 'd post something.

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Seth ~ The Speakers

Gea — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:29:10 GMT

JANE ROBERTS : From "SETH"

• Thoughts and their mental associations are living things,
formations of energy assembled into invisible structures, through
processes quite as valid and complicated as the organization of any
group of cells. Comparing them with cells, they are of briefer
duration, generally speaking, though under certain conditions this
does not apply. But your thoughts form structures as real as the
cells. Their composition is different in that no solidity is involved,
in your terms.

As living cells have a structure, react to stimuli and organize
according to their own classification, so do thoughts. Thoughts thrive
on association. They magnetically attract others like themselves, and
like some strange microscopic animals they repel their "enemies," or
other thoughts that are threatening to their own survival.

Using this analogy, your mental and emotional life forms a framework
composed of such structures, and these act directly upon the cells of
your physical body.

• The SPEAKERS - a brotherhood which has worked throughout
history to preserve mankind's esoteric knowledge. "Others who have
been what we humans are and more --- and we listen, trying to squeeze
their messages into concepts that we can understand, cloaking them in
worn stereotyped images. Yet they are all around us in the wind and
trees, formed and unformed, more alive in many ways perhaps than we
are - the SPEAKERS. Through these voices, these intuitions, these
flashes of insights and messages, the universe speaks to us, to each
of us personally. Learn to hear your own messages, untranslated by
old alphabets. Thus we respond to the gods in ourselves - those inner
sparks of knowing that defy our three-dimensional knowledge". Seth
says, 'while you are conscious bodies, remember what it was like and
will be like to be bodiless, to be free-wheeling energy without a name
but with a voice that does not need tongue, with a creativity that
does not need flesh.'

• REINCARNATION is a process whereby simultaneous period dramas
are engaged by individual aspects of our multi-dimensional selves -
e.g. simultaneous actor involvement in 100 BC, 1200 AD, 1998, etc.
with such focus in our roles and their respective challenges that we
forget these 'roles' are of our own creation. We live many existences
at one time. Periods of renaissance occur because of the intense
inner focus of those involved in the collective drama. Progress is
not of time but has to do with psychic/spiritual focus. (Your actions
in this life are not caused by a previous existence, nor are you being
punished in this life for past ones - the lives are simultaneous).

In dreams and meditation, we retire inwardly to be informed through
the inner senses of our other lives (roles) - our vision suddenly
pierces the respective props of our roles. Each actor actualizes a
portion of itself within three-dimensional reality so as to become
self-actualized, fully integrated. To the extent that you allow the
intuitions and knowledge of the multi-dimensional self to flow through
the conscious self, you perform your role in the play more effectively
and also add new energy, insights and creativity to your entire
dimension. Your various lives grow out of what your inner self is, as
your consciousness opens up and expresses itself in as many ways as
possible.

The REINCARNATIONAL structure is a psychological one. The reality,
the validity, the immediacy of those lives does exist simultaneously
with your present life. The distances between one life and another
exists psychologically, and not in terms of years and centuries. The
psychological distance can be vaster, as there are certain lives (as
there are certain events in this life) that you may not want to face
or deal with.

• The SOUL, or entity, is highly individualized spiritual
energy. Its consciousness can never be still but seeks further
creativity. The soul gives breath to the body, and to the
three-dimensional self within it. The latter then opens up new areas
of creativity - this being its purpose. Souls send out portions of
themselves (three-dimensional selves) to open up awareness of reality
that would not exist otherwise. The individual three-dimensional
selves, in existing within these realities, must focus their attention
there completely. And inner awareness gives them a source of energy
and strength. They must, however, come to understand their roles as
actors, "finally", from their roles, and through another act of
comprehension, return to the entity soul. Learn to handle the energy
that is yourself, for creative purposes - as co-creators. The soul
has created a world for you to inhabit, to change - a complete sphere
of activity in which new developments and new forms of consciousness
can emerge. You continually create your soul as it continually
creates you.

• In the very deep reaches of SLEEP experience, you are in
communication with other portions of your own identity, and with the
other realities in which they exist. In this state you pursue work
and endeavours that may or may not be connected with your interests as
you know them - you are involved in the underground, real nitty-gritty
of existence. Your consciousness leaves your body often in sleep,
communicating with people in other levels of reality that you have
known; while beyond this you maintain and revitalize your physical
image. Sleep blocs of 4 - 2 - 2 hours are better than one 8 hour
bloc, allowing a more steady renewal of both physical and psychic
activity, i.e. a better memory/use of your subjective connecting
experiences. Through the ages the Speakers have taught dreamers how
to manipulate in these other environments - how to bring back
information that would be used for the benefit of the present
personality. It is possible for a Speaker to go in dream to another
individual who is having some difficulties in an inner reality within
the dream state. A good Speaker is as effective in one reality as he
is within another, creating psychic frameworks within physical reality
as well as in interior environments.

• In the most PROTECTED AREAS OF SLEEP, divorced from physical
focus, you are in a better position to hear the Speakers, to translate
their instructions, to practice with the creation of images, and to be
guided in the methods of maintaining the health of the physical body.
In the deeply protected areas of sleep, one is on the threshold of
other layers of reality and probabilities - where experience is out of
all normal time context. The Speakers help one correlate and
understand this multi-dimensional existence, bringing it to conscious
attention - and thereby glimpse the nature of All That Is. One can
prepare questions or problems for solution in the sleep state; speak
with distant friends through pre-suggestion; convey important messages
which you cannot transmit verbally; bring about reconciliation at a
deeper-than-normal level of reality; or suggest directed healing of
your body; or enlist a Speaker's aid in obtaining psychological
therapy. Beneficial conscious goals may be suggested to oneself
pre-sleep, and the dreams will point to and hasten their physical
reality. In the most protected areas of sleep one is dealing with
experience that is pure feeling or knowing, and disconnected from both
words and images. These experiences are translated into dreams later,
bridging a transit to 'normal' physical consciousness, if one can
interpret the symbols into this particular plane. In any event, the
unconscious and subconscious levels are aware of more of the
information than the ego, and may provide ongoing guidance via one's
internal communicative links.

found at : http://www.eboards4all.com/360514/messages/7798.html

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Sethian Music

evil_fish — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:24:06 GMT

Hi All,

Here is a song I created, called "Proof's Tally", with Sethian a influence on the words and production style.

You can listen here: www.atomicperception.com/video/proofs_tally.wma

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Collected Seth Exercises?

Johnnyis — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:36:49 GMT

In nearly all of the Seth books he slips in at least one or two "exercises" things to focus on, tips, etc. Does anyone have a collection of these exercises all together? I've been rereading Personal Reality and it has a handful of them, I'm thinking I should go through and copy out all of those. Would be nice to get together a concise collection from his various works though.

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Three Lifetimes TAROT based on Seth

prayoga — Fri, 19 May 2006 03:00:07 GMT

Since I developed this TAROT when I was reading Seth Speaks I want to share and hear your views.

Two third of mankind believes in reincarnation as a possibility. In Hinduism and Buddhism reincarnation is an essential part of their religion. Bad tongues tell that reincarnation was whipped out of the Christian belief in medieval church reformations. Christianity also believes in an afterlife in heaven. Jesus is even supposed to come back from heaven. And he was just man among men. So we can say that reincarnation at least is a working concept. At least for a big deal of humanity it is.

And then came the modern quantum physics with theories that time doesn’t exist. Time is only a concept, just as reincarnation is a concept to understand the world around us. So what happens if time doesn’t exist and al is a “Big Great Now”. I think this evolution of thinking makes memories of past life existence more available for al of us then it was 100 years ago. So if we are living in the “Big Great Now” we can also “remember next lives. You stretch your mind to next existences on this planet.

Already in 1989 I designed inspired by the Haindl TAROT my Three Lifetimes TAROT. The Reading describes three of your incarnations. One past incarnation, the incarnation you call your life now and a next possible life. It can broader your vision on your present life by seeing connections with past and future incarnations. You see a past life leading to your present life floating in a next incarnation.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT can help you realize what happens when your present life floats in a future existence. You can study juvenile life in a past life connected with your present youth, seeing how you will do next time. You see a developing of three young people, all you at the same time. You can see the three presents, your age in a past life, now and your age in a next life. And you can see how three existences lead to an end. Your present 21 century old age, how it was in a past life and in a next.

Besides the“Big Great Now” I use the concept of “Free Will” in my Readings. The Three Lifetimes TAROT can help you gain insight where a development goes in a not whished direction. “Free Will” is a main principle in modern TAROT and Astrology. This makes The Three Lifetimes TAROT a tool to make better choices in life. You can even concentrate The Three Lifetimes TAROT in your present 21th century existence.

Three cards what represent your past life can also represent your present youth. Cumulated in the card of this life’s past. Then we have the central NOW card, the essence of The Three Lifetimes TAROT; can be broadened with past and future “present”. The one card for your present future is the shortcut for the three cards to come. Now you have a multitude of opportunities to change your life. Moments to regain control over your life.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT can be used for a diagnostic tool to check chakra’s when you suffer energy problems or illnesses. You have a view where health is found, what there is to retrieve and what unfavourable factors there are to avoid with your Free Will. The Three Lifetimes TAROT is a source of information and possibilities on physical, spiritual and social level. It gives you insight in life and offers possibilities and choices. The Three Lifetimes TAROT can liberate you from stuck patterns.

The Three Lifetimes TAROT, tool for insight and choices. The Future is in your Hands.

Mail me for details gaytarot@gmail.com

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lucid waking

spontrain — Sat, 06 May 2006 06:21:20 GMT

Seth recommends minimizing the gap between dreaming and waking life. (It's related to the suggestion that we not sleep for longer than four hours at a time.) The effect is to make our dreams more lucid, and to become more conscious of the fluid, emergent and symbolic nature of waking reality. In my experience it is an effective form of Sethian practice. The implicit fluidity of waking life can be seen and experienced as one form that reality creation takes. Our waking and sleeping lives increasingly supplement and reinforce each other.

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noticing WCOOR, playing games

spontrain — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:39:48 GMT

We create our own reality .(WCOOR) . . . through our beliefs.

Seth Alive has been quiet recently, even though the Sethian framework is vital to comprehending our lives and world. I would be interested in hearing where, and in what form, members of the group see WCOOR manifesting in the world. At global levels, for example, we see the belief that violence can be used to achieve effective results. Seth doesn't entirely disagree, except that the indirect many-faceted consequences are unlikely to be the results intended by the perpetrators. But, they (and, to the extent that we buy in, we) ending up living in the world that a belief in the 'efficacy of violence' creates.

The positive outcomes of (even) distructive beliefs are indirect, and may involve learning and the many cultural expressions of those lessons. Janes Carse writes that there are two types of games: finite and infinite. Finite games assume that there are winners and losers, and players seek to achieve (finite) victory. In infinite games, the point is to continue the game. Art and music are great examples: one appreciates a genre, and contributes to it, thereby extending it, keeping it alive, and providing another example (trope) that will inspire someone else to make there own contributions. This seems like a very productive insight, and very Sethian.

In the contrmporary world, both finite and infinite games are played with gusto. But finite games seem more fun, more creative and, over time, more fulfilling.

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Changing your beliefs: changing reality

ENIAD — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:43:52 GMT

The whole Sethian concept hinges on belief and the creation (precipitation) of reality along those lines. I find beliefs extremely hard to track down and also grapple within the bounds of my own logical rational mind and its steel clamp on “reality». Notwithstanding my extensive reading on the topic, I often come across as a “non-believer” to the whole Sethian conception, in my own eyes.
But if the world is quantic then it is shaped as we go along, and I have also glimpsed at that creation.
Also, I have taken the Tibetan Buddhist Green Tara initiation (a powerful female deity, and fiery counterpart to the placid male Buddha) and found the description eerily quantic. One example is sending hooks into objects and pulling them energetically to you. You are encouraged to keep a dialogue open with the Tara and to keep the connection alive. The Tara is a process that removes the mental perturbations that stand in the way to creation. I now find the energy of the Tara hovering over me. It is palpable at times.
Beliefs systems sometimes overlap and all good systems should since we are referring to the same universe.
Also, the Tara sounds like a recipe for creation making.

And now back to Seth, have you experienced a change of belief resulting in the creation of a new reality? How quickly? What beliefs did you change and what processes did you clear?
How did it happen?

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Probbable Presents

evil_fish — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:45:13 GMT

Hi All,

A really strange thing happend this morning, I just had to post about it.

I woke up this morning and my life was different. Parts of it was the same but some of it was different. My daughter, for instance, was at least 4-5 years older than she should have been and was dressed as if she attended a Catholic School. The wardrobe in my bedroom was gone and in its place was a wooden dresser painted white. I walked into the kitchen and got a bannana to eat, it was very very ripe. I began peeling it and trying to throw away the mushy black part and got my hands all sticky. I went to the sink to wash up and I noticed that the faucet was the original one that came with the house. I had replaced the kitchen faucet just last spring. At this point, I woke up again and there was my wardrobe and the white wood dresser was gone. Somehow I woke in a probble self's reality. I wonder where he woke up?

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A little magic, please

ENIAD — Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:46:07 GMT

As winter draws to a close it is traditional to in Northern country to celebrate light. We are so starved for light by the last throes of very cold winters. Locally, we have “Montréal en lumière”or “Montréal in Lights”, where we get to spend sleepless free nights in our large glass buildings linked by a full subway underground network. We will join our fellow night-owls as they flock to museums and galleries and feast on pop, rock, jazz, classical and electro music, films and books, or get active, dancing, skating or snowshoeing up Mount Royal...
The Celebration of Light, of this red-eye party is the last leg of winter, we hope.
But we are also starved for magic, all of us, and that slow starvation is happening year round. We need illumination into our daily grind that keeps us suitably numb. Is there any real magic, anywhere beyond the drone, the conditioning and brainwashing we all underwent and are still undergoing daily and with our logical mind clamping down, hard, on the manifestation of anything bizarre.
I remembered my old teacher buying a ticket for the show of a famous magician who flew the entire length of the room at one point. My teacher was kept in thrall by this feat as it reminded him of the rapture of flight and of soaring away. We all smiled at the quirk of this habitually logical man who claimed that the professional magician actually flew. The magician was probably too happy not to disclose the details of his feat that was shrouded in "technical" mystery and away from sceptics’ probing. And yet…Then I found this random article about a vortex point experiment, www.amasci.com/freenrg/pyrexp1.html#back which premises were gleaned from the Seth material, and the strange phenomena it locally created and read in disbelief about rabbit jumping out of nowhere, bouncing with a resounding thud and then vanishing into thin air. Ted Andrews, a famous occult Magick practitioner and teacher spoke of serpents undulating in and out of his apartment floor after he got involved in magic (to each his own), obviously displaying the hallmark of a successful ritual and technically creating rifts in reality (you do get what you concentrate on).
Were magicians at one point really able to pull real rabbits out of hats before it became a tired old trick? How many are still quietly, snickering at our logical explanations, happy to be left off the hook, going off their parallel corridors or pulling things even more wondrous?
And as an aside question, how are you doing? What about your life? What have you been pulling out of the Cornucopia? Do you know, and acknowledge what magic you have created: the dull and the enchanting, the boring and frightening. Have you let go of the miraculous or do you let it go on, framing your life along the il/logical magical. What is strange and miraculous about your life? Including the total lack of strange and miraculous, below all statistical evidence. What kind of un/magician are you?
For magic is just another word for reality creation.

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Seth On Nirvana

evil_fish — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:42 GMT

This comes from The Nature Of Personal Reality, Session 637 (a footnote by Robert Butts quoting Seth from an ESP class)

In Buddhism, nirvana -- a state of heavenly perfection -- is achieved by the extinction of individual life and the soul's absorbtion into the supreme spirit.

"There is nothing more deadly than nirvana. At least your Christian concepts give you some twilight hopes of a stifling and boring paradise, where your individuality can at least express itself, and nirvana extends no such comfort. Instead it offers you the annihilation of your personality, in a bliss that destroys the integrity of your being. Run from such bliss!"

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A Flash Of Insight

evil_fish — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:22:08 GMT

I have been re-reading The Nature Of Personal Reality and trying to work with those thoughts that are rejected and thrown into the corner of your mind. I had a break through where I was really searching for these and all I could find was a blinding light. Pushing through the light I found a crack in the wall that I ripped open. This led to a pit of rubble. I pushed on through and decsended into the pit and wondered about it and it came to me that this is the place where unexamined thoughts end up. I have been revisting this place every evening and sometimes in the day. It is mostly a jumble of dusty girders piled upon each other. I have been lifting them up and smashing them around trying to find any inkling of what these thoughts are.

SCENE CHANGE: Jane Roberts once described her connection with Seth as a window that magnifies energy, kind of like the way a lens on a camera magnifies light. I chose an arbitrary place in my mind and decided to polish and scrub away until I too had a window to somewhere. I have visited this window many times and have had nothing come though and I could see nothing through the window either. Then, the other night, I was looking through my dark window and decided, the hell with it I am going through. I simply imagined myself passing through the window and I ended up on a dead planet (all desert, no plant or animal) with the window as a portal back to where I came from. When I looked back into the portal I could see a stream of electric like colors moving ever so fast on the other side. I realized that these were thoughts, probably cellular communication. Then it occured to me that if I came out of there, that I must just be a thought as well. So reached back into the portal and pulled out one of those steele girders from my pit of unexamined thoughts. I plopped it on the dusty desert ground and kicked it and bent it and tossed it around to no avail. I have visted this place a few times trying to gain anything from this twisted piece of metal.

Then it happened! I was there in the desert place as I was dropping off and a sheet of paper appeared in my mind. It was the answer to many problems that I was having. I was very excited about this and at the time all my ego could remember were two words. But those words were lost to me the next day. The vision was quite clear and I do believe that I was in Sumari at the time. I'm sure my inner self gained something, but it is frustrating to have an answer only to have it slip away.

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Hi everyone .. I'm new here !

Scotty — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:49:48 GMT

I'm so delighted to have found this group (quite by hazard - IF one believes in hazard that is heh heh heh )
I came across something about Seth a couple of months ago (cant rememebr where) and that got me really wondering - so I sent off for the book Oversoul 7... oh boy oh boy - the book just knocked my socks off !!!!! ( I love the way it's written too as I'm a sci-fi fan)
Now I must try to find out more about Seth and his teachings !!

I'm unemployed and so I can't just up and buy books, but I do want to read more about Seth so I have to be selective - if any of you can give me an idea of which books are a 'must read' I'd be grateful !!

Look forward to getting to know you all !

Namasté
Chris

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The Future

sblonder — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:39:47 GMT

Hello - I'm new to this tribe but not new to Seth. I began reading Nature of Personal Reality in 1978. Anyway, I recently posted a piece Seth dictated about the Future. I think it is even more relevant today as we ponder what form the so-called "shift" will take. Thoughts?

The Future

Now: ...you move into new areas of the self all of the time. The species is now entering such a phase, a period in which it will come more into its own. Mankind will be entering its own new house, then--but the physical changes will be the results of interior ones, and alterations in main lines of probabilities.
"Christian theology sees the end of the world in certain terms, with a grand God coming to reward the good and to punish the wicked. That system of belief allows for no other probability. Some see the end of the world coming as a greater disaster, or envision man finally ruining his planet. Others see periods of peace and advance--and each probability will happen "somewhere." However, many of my readers, or their offspring, will be involved in a new dimension of selfhood in which consciousness is fully explored and the potentials of the soul uncovered, at least to some extent.

"Human capabilities will be seen as what they are, and a great new period of development will occur, in which all concepts of selfhood and reality will be literally seen as "primitive superstition. ”The species will actually move into a new kind of selfhood.

"Theories of probabilities will be seen as practical, workable, psychological facts, giving leeway and freedom to the individual, who will no longer feel at the mercy of external events--but will realize instead that he (or she) is their initiator.

"Now, you squeeze the great fruit of your selfhood into a tiny uneasy pulp, unaware of the sweetness of its juices or the variety of its seasons. You look at the outsides of yourselves as if a peach were aware only of its skin. In the reality I foresee, however, people will become familiar with far greater aspects of themselves, and bring these into actualization. They will be in touch with their own decisions as they make them.

"If they become ill, they will do so knowing they choose the condition in order to emphasize certain areas of development, or to minimize others. They will be aware of their options, consciously. The great strength and resiliency of the body will be much better understood; not because medical science makes spectacular discoveries--though it will--but because the mind's alliance with the body will be seen more clearly.

"In this probability of which I speak, the species will begin to encounter the great challenge inherent in fulfilling the vast untouched (forcefully) potential of the human body and mind. (Long pause.) In that probable reality, to which each of you can belong to some extent, each person will recognize his or her inherent power of action and decision, and feel an individual sense of belonging with the physical world that springs up in response to individual desire and belief.

". . . but remember--you call this your universe and your reality, and it is indeed, for you form it. Within you also is the knowledge of other great experiments that are being tried, just as other probable systems are aware of the experiments you are involved with. I am speaking in your terms only, which means that to some extent I am hedging--but other civilizations have gone your route. Some have failed, but the inhabitants of some earths have succeeded very well.

"As you think of it, your future is not set. You can follow any road you choose, but--until you realize that as individuals you each form your own personal life, and have a part in the mass creation of reality--there is much learning ahead for you. This is a lesson you are meant to fully understand within physical reality.

"You are meant to judge physical reality. You are meant to realize that it is a materialization of your thoughts and feelings and images, that the inner self forms that world. In your terms, you cannot be allowed to go into other dimensions until you have learned the great power of your thoughts and subjective feelings. So even when you think you destroy, you destroy nothing. And when you think you kill, you kill nothing. When you imagine that you can annihilate a reality, you can only assault it as you know it. The reality itself will continue to exist.

"Because you cannot follow a thought, you wonder where it has gone; has it fallen off some invisible cliff in your mind? But because you can no longer hold that thought in consciousness does not mean it no longer exists, that it does not have a reality of its own, for it does indeed. And if a world escapes you--if you cannot follow it and think it has been destroyed--then the same thing applies to the world as to the thought. It continues to live.

"Now, what I have said should inspire questions within you.... ”

--Seth

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greeting Tribe!

Fravashi — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:37:39 GMT

This may have been done already in the list but I was wondering...

...As someone who hasn't read the Seth material is there anyone here that feels willing and able to kind of 'sum up' what it's all about? By that I mean, The Universe, Life, Humanities Path, Purpose, Future, etc...

Would Love to hear that from one or more of You...

Thanks!

Timothy

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Seth Alive in Europe

prayoga — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:28:33 GMT

High5 Friends,

New to the tribe-scene and wanted to say hallo. After Rajneesh in 1982, the works of Jane Robberts were my next step on my Pathless Path. Being not spoiled by a religious background I was free to explore, and yeahhhh I did.
But I haven't come across many Seth knowers in Europe, allthough my experience studying Seth was: "Everyone must know this!" No-one seemed intrested in that time (1988). Reading the mass of channeled messages on the WWW nowedays, I miss the deep truth and unique completeness of Seth/Jane's work.

Feel free to explore my bio and blogs and be very welcome to comment!!! I love the sharing of energy so don't hold back. And if you feel connected, drop a line and become freinds.

Greetzzzz Prayoga

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Codicils -- Part B

spontrain — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:00:10 GMT

1. Each person is a unique version of an inner model that is itself a bank of potentials, variations, and creativity. The psyche is a seed and individuality and selfhood, cast in space-time but ultimately independent of it.

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The Codicils

evil_fish — Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:39:08 GMT

These came from "The Education Of Oversoul Seven"

1.) All of creation is sacred and alive, each part connected to each other part, and each communicating in a creative cooperative commerce in which the smallest and the largest are equally involved.

2.) The physical senses present one unquie version of reality, in which being is percieved in a particular dimensionalized sequence, built up through neurological patterning, and is the result of one kind of neurological focus. There are alternate neurological routes, biologically acceptable, and other sequences so far not chosen.

3.) Our individual self-government and our political organizations are by-products of sequential perception, and our exterior methods of communication setup patterns that correlate with, and duplicate, our synaptic behavior. We lock ourselves into certain structures of reality in this way.

4.) Our sequential prejudiced perception is inherently far more flexible than we recognize, however. There are half steps -- other unpercieved impulses -- that leap the nerve ends, too fast and too slow for our usual focus. Recognition of these can be learned and encouraged, bringing in perceptive data that will trigger changes in usual sense response, filling out potential sense spectra with which we are normally not familiar.

5.) This greater possible sense spectrum includes increased perception of inner bodily reality in terms of cellular identity and behavior; automatic conscious control of bodily processes; and increased perception of exterior conditions as the usual senses become more vigorous. (Our sight, for example, is not nearly as efficient as it could be. Nuances of color, texture, and depth could be expanded and our entire visual are attain a brilliance presently considered exceptional or supernormal).

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Seth Snippet On Astral Travel and Other Belief Systems

evil_fish — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:42:55 GMT

Seth Speaks: Session #587

"Some ancient tales have come down through the centuries that tell of various gods and demons who gaurd the gates, so to speak, of other levels of reality and stages of consciousness. Astral levels are neatly laid out, numbered and categorized.
There are test to pass before entry. There are rituals to be acted out. Now, all of this is highly distorted. Any attempts to so rigorously and precisely express inner reality is bound to be abortive, highly misleading, and in your terms sometimes dangerous; for you do create your own reality and live it according to your inner beliefs. Therefore, be careful also of those beliefs that you accept."

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Seth on Buddah

evil_fish — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:31:46 GMT

I ran across a mention of Buddah in Seth Speaks and thought of a friend who is a Buddhist. Keeping in line with following my impulses, I thought I'd post it. The passage does mention that Seth has "said this in the past", I wonder where these other mentions of Buddah have occured (ie what books)?

Session #568 "Seth Speaks The Eternal Validity Of The Soul"
(10:21 pm)
"..Now the same thing applies to each of your great religions, though as I have said in the past, the Buddhists come closer, generally speaking, to a description of the nature of reality. They have not understood the eternal validity of the soul, however, in terms of its exquistite invulnerability, nor been able to hold a feeling for its unique character. But Buddah, like Christ, interpreted what he almost knew in terms of your own reality. Not only of your own physical reality, but your own probable physical reality."

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God Of Jane Jumps Off Shelf

evil_fish — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:46:20 GMT

Hi All,

I was between readings and had been thinking about purchasing "God Of Jane" on line. I went clothes shopping at a local thrift store to get some new work clothes. On a whim, I stolled down the knick knack aisle and glanced up on a shelf and there was the book "God Of Jane". I was ecstatic and incredibly happy. I felt like some kind of synchonicity was occuring. I quickly grabbed it as if someone else might walk by looking for the same thing. It was sitting all by itself on a shelf with no other books and the spine of the book was facing me (in a thrift store many books are simply faceing the wrong direction).

This is really a great book that gives you some insight into Jane herself. I have been practicing following my inpulses (a strong topic in this book) and it has been getting me into a mess of trouble.

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Other Seth's

evil_fish — Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:53:05 GMT

I'm sure we disccussed this before, but was reading "The God Of Jane" and came across a session number where Seth states that he did not come through other people.

Session #876:
...
"Other people have written that I have given them such messages. Another women dreamed of me, and had an experience in which a child was definately healed. Now, I did not communicate with those women - but their belief in me helped each of them use certain abilities..."

I know this is stated better in other session, but as "the God Of Jane" deals a lot about impulses, I felt the impulse to come down here and post it.

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Afterdeath journeys

wayusa-warmi — Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:07:25 GMT

This thread seems to dovetail in some interesting ways with Seth material, so I thought I would post the link:

http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3292

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Seth in dreams and elsewhere...

Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:26:40 GMT

Has anybody else here or anywhere else that any of you know been contacted by Seth in dreams or elsewhere?
I have and am curious...

PS this is no joke

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Seths Pyramids

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:20:35 GMT

Seth mentions major and minor places that are "nodes"
(forgot the term he uses) that are great places for building houses etc and temples etc usually have been build there ( more stable or whatever).

He also mentioned how to detect the closest "node" to you and mentioned that if pryimids are built there it increases something.

I read another seth book where one person did create one in their house and weird stuff happened - so they took it down.

Anyone know more ( how to build / orientate / how do detect where the "node" is ?)

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The Ego

evil_fish — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:14:56 GMT

I was just reading some of my notes from the Seth Material about the ego.

"The Ego, while appearing to be permanent, then, forever changes as it adapts to new characteristics from the whole self and lets others recede.

The Ego:

It understands its source and nature.

It surveys physical reality in relation to those characteristics of which it is composed of.

It sits between you and the exterior world.

It makes judgments about the nature of reality in relationship to it's and your needs.

It accepts or does not accept beliefs.

It can not shut out information from your conscious mind but it can refuse to pay attention to it.

Its position is the most exterior portion of the innerself.

The ego tries to organize all material coming into the conscious mind for its purpose."

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A Thought Misguided

evil_fish — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:45:12 GMT

Hi All,

I was just practing my drum kit, playing a syncopated beat. At one point I wanted a beat to go to the kick drum via my foot. But it ended up at the left hand. This floored me, I stopped playing and just had to post.

I know it may seem trivial, but there is a reason why the beat was transfered to another location. The short answer would be that it was the most probable destination and therefore was materialized. But if we dig a little deeper I think we'll find that it was the ego itself that blocked the beat from it's destination. An attempt at control by the ego's part where none was needed. Playing music is very much an impulse oriented experience.

The ego, itself is time oriented in this reality. Behind the ego is the conscious mind and behind the conscious mind we have the inner self. Now the inner self lies outside of time and consciousness and creates the reality the ego experiences moment by moment. Seth states that the ego can make requests of the inner self and conscious mind. This is where I start when I want something from the world. I am an ego requesting change of the inner self. I back this up with visualization. The conscious mind can also do this very same thing. Request change from the inner self.

These are the kind of things that go through my head on a daily basis. I'm sorry, but I lost my train of thought. I started this post yesterday and was interupted only to come back to my computer and see this half baked idea. I wish I knew what my original intent was.

Its kind of like the dream, I had last night. Initially I awoke with nothing in my head, no menory of any dream, then I had the slightest glimpse of "Oh yeah, Happy was in my dream..." and that was it.

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Altering Beliefs

evil_fish — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:49:31 GMT

One of the most hampering beliefs of all, is the idea that the clues to current behavior are burried and usually inaccessable.

Nature of Personal Reality #620

Altering beliefs is one of the most difficult aspects of the Seth Material. It takes a lot of self-talking-to to even figure out what your own beliefs are. And once you think you understand yourself, then the task of changing those beliefs begins. Beliefs are tricky things that lie hidden in camoflage, like the snake in the grass, or an undergound cable that supplies power to your home. You have to dig deep and overturn all rocks and leaves to expose the belief. And exposing the belief is what ultimately reveals the belief to the self. Now that you have traversed the associative pathways of your cellular memory you can finally pin it down and remove it with affirmations.

Ways to alter beliefs:
1.) Substitute it's opposite.
2.) 3- Prong Method
Generate the emotion opposite the one that arises from the belief you want to change, and turn your imagination in the opposite direction from the one dictated by the belief. At the same time consciously assure yourself that the unsatisfactory belief is an idea about reality and not an aspect of reality itself.

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New to the group

Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:00:19 GMT

Hello all, I found this group following Atom's page and thank him for that. I'm fairly new to Seth study, having only read Seth Speaks, and then lending it out afterward. I would like to read more of Seth, but am always so engrossed in other studies that I just haven't really gotten around to him yet. So I'm hopeful this group will pacify me in the meantime. It's a dream of mine to undergo a comprehensive comparison of all the Seth material to all the Edgar Cayce material. Now that both are on CD-Rom, I may one day be able to do that. In that regard I am curious is anyone knows of such a comparison ever being done before? BTW, I moderate the rather small and quite Edgar Cayce tribe, so if anyone here is interested in his work as well, we'd love to have you aboard!

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Man's Purpose

evil_fish — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:48:23 GMT

I was reading this session the other day and this part just stood out.

Session #901 "Dreams Evolution and Value Fulfillment"

Physically speaking, man's "purpose" is to help enrich the quality of existence in all of its dimensions. Spiritually speaking, his "purpose" is to understand the qualities of love and creativity, to intellectually and psychically understand the sources of his being, and to lovingly create other dimensions of reality of which he is presently unaware.

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Seth On Televised News

evil_fish — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:49:48 GMT

Session #889 "Dreams Evolution and Value Fulfillment Vol:1"

"It makes little difference whether you watch the news or not-but it makes all the difference in the world what you think of world events.

The perspective from which you watch world events is vital, and it is true that communication now brings to the conscious mind a far greater barrage than before. But it is also a barrage that makes man see his own activities, and even with the growth of new nationalism in the Third World, those nations begin to form a new perspective, in which the eyes of the world are indeed upon them.

Your country faces the results of its own policies-its greed as well as its good intent, but it is out in the open in a new way. The world will be seen as one, but there may be changes in the overall tax assessments along the way, as those who have not paid much, pay more.

The results of fanaticism are also out in the open. Never before, in your terms, has the private person been able to see a picture of the mass world in such a way, or been forced to identify with the policies of his or her government. That in itself is a creative achievement, and means that man is not closing his eyes to the inequities of his world."

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Seth On War and Violence

evil_fish — Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:09:54 GMT

"When every young man refuses to go to war, you will have peace. As long as you fight for gain and greed, there will be no peace. As long as one person commits acts of violence for the sake of peace, you will have war. Unfortunately it is difficult to imagine that all the young men in all of the countries will refuse to go to war at the same time. And so you must work out the violence that violence has wrought. Within the next hundred years that time may come. Remember, you do not defend any idea with violence."

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Uploaded 2 Photos...

tydynrain — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 07:32:13 GMT

I uploaded 2 photos that were taken at the SethNet held in Elmira, NY., in 1997. One is of Robert Butts and myself...the other is me sitting the old rocker in which Jane sat while she delivered the Seth Material over so many years. It was one very, very, very cool event...one which I was exceedingly fortunate to have been able to attend.

Peace, Love, and Fulfillment...

Ty.

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Finally!

tydynrain — Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:59:15 GMT

Greetings All...

I have been searching on tribe.net for a Seth group for a looooonnngggg time now, without success. I did yet another search yet again today, and I found this group...yay! I am exceedingly happy to become a member here, as the Jane Roberts/Seth Material has been an important part of my life for many years now.

Thank you for creating the group Randy.

Peace, Love, and Fulfillment...

Ty.

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Seth Terms Defined

evil_fish — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:55:39 GMT

As you read the Seth books, you will run across words like soul, spirit, god and so on. These are words that we "think" we know what they mean, but as Seth uses them he tries to define what they mean in his world. The word "soul" to a chrisitian is entirely different than the soul of a Sethian.

This thread is for defining words that we encouter in these books from Seth's point of view.

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State Of Grace

evil_fish — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:51:01 GMT

Close your eyes. Think of your breath as lives, and you the entity through which they have passed and are passing. Then you will feel your state-of-grace, and all artifcial guilt will be meaningless. As your breath leaves you and becomes part of the world, so do your lives leave you and continues to exist in your terms.

The Nature Of Personal Reality #636

Your state-of-grace is what you are born into and constantly exist in. We "fall" out of grace as we proceed through life and entertain the guilt generated from our violations against nature. But we never truly "fall" out of grace according to Seth. We simply chose to entertain guilt, natural or artificial. This is part of our unbalanced approach to self development. And it only seems unbalanced from our point-of-view. The larger self sees a more complete whole where our unbalanced extremes of exploration in this life may counter balance short comings in another life. Our simultaneous selves create harmonics this way as the larger self sings it's song of delight.

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Seth Speaks - EXERCISE-1:Activating The Inner Senses

evil_fish — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:49:40 GMT

The inner senses will allow you to percieve the reality that is independent of the physical form.

Now, pretend that you are on a lighted stage, the stage being the room in which you now sit. Close your eyes and pretend that the lights have gone out, the setting has disappeared and you are alone.
Everything is dark. Be quite. Imagine as vividly as you can the existences of inner senses (see inner sense thread for descriptions). For now pretend that they correspond to your physical ones. Clear from your mind all thoughts and worries. Be receptive. Very gently listen, not to physical sounds but to sounds that come through the inner senses.
Images may begin to appear. Accept them as sights quite as valid as those you see physically. Pretend that there is an inner world, and that it will be revealed to you as you learn to percieve it with these inner senses.
Pretend that you have been blind to this world all your life, and are now slowly gaining sight within it. Do not judge the whole inner world by the disjointed images that you may at first percieve, or by the sounds that you may at first hear, for you will still be using your inner senses quite imperfectly.
Do this simple exercise for a few moments before sleep or in a resting state. It may also be done even in the midst of an ordinary task that does not take all of your attention.
You will simply be learning to focus in a new dimension of awareness, taking quick snapshots, as it were, in a strange environment. Remember that you will only be percieving snatches. Simply accept them, but do not attempt to make any overall judgements or interpretations at this stage.
Ten minutes a day to begin with is quite sufficient.

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Diagrams in the photo section!

evil_fish — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:34:37 GMT

Hi All,

As the moderator, I'm trying to keep Seth Alive!, alive by posting a few diagrams that I have created while reading the various books(no, I have not read them all yet). As I read these books, the programmer in me could not help but recognize the incredible data structure of the world beyond the senses that is described within these pages. I have laid out the diagrams in "flow-chart" kind manner.

Enjoy!

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The Inner Senses Defined!

evil_fish — Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:38:11 GMT

Hi All,

Thought you might like a list of the inner senses and what they do. Also some tips on how to activate them in your own worlds.

Enjoy!

Inner Vibrational Touch

Think of the Inner Senses as paths leading to an inner reality. The first sense involves perception of a direct nature-instant cognition through what I can only describe as inner vibrational touch. Imagine a man standing on a typical street of houses and grass and trees. This sense would permit him to feel the basic sensations felt by each of the trees about him. His consciousness would expand to contain the experience of what it is to be a tree-any or all of the trees He would feel the experience of being anything he chooses within his field of notice: people, insects, blades of grass. He would not lose consciousness of who he was, but would percieve these sensations somewhat in the same way that you now feel heat and cold.
This sense is much like empathy, but far more vital. (Seth says that we can't experience these Inner Senses in their full intensity now, because our nervous systems can't handle that much stimuli.)

Psychological Time

Psychological Time is a natural pathway that was meant to give an easy route of access from the inner world to the outer, and back again, though you do not use it as such. Psycgological Time originally enabled man to live in the inner and outer worlds with relative ease...As you develop in your use of it, you will be able to rest within it's framework while you are consciously awake. It adds duration to your normal time. You will discover your whole selves, peeping inward and outward simultaneously, and know that all divisions are illusion.
Sit or lie quietly alone and close your eyes. Pretend that there is a world within as vivid and real as the physical one. Turn off your physical senses. If you want, imagine that they have dials and you flip them off, one by one. Then imagine that the Inner Senses have another set of dials. Imaginatively, turn them on. This is one method of begining.
You may, instead, just lie quietly and concentrate on a dark screen until images or lights appear on it. Do not concentrate on the worries or daily trivia that may arise as soon as you block out physical distractions. If such thoughts do come to the foreground of attention, then you are not ready to proceed. First you must get rid of them.
At a certain point you will feel alert and conscious but very light. Within your mind you may see bright lights. You may hear sounds or voices. Some may be telepathic or clairvoyant messages. Some may simply be subconscious pictures. As you practice, you will learn to tell one from the other.
Gradually as you progress, you will feel apart from time as we know it during this exercise. You may have various kinds of subjective experiences, from extrasensory episodes to simple periods of inspiration and direction. I (meaning Jane Roberts) sometimes have out-of-body travels, for instance, during Psy-Time. This sense leads to refreshment, relaxation, and peace. It can be used in many ways, for different purposes.

Perception Of Past, Present, And Future

If you will remember our imaginary man as he stands upon a street, you will recall that I spoke of his feeling of all the unitary essences of each living thing within his range, using the first Inner Sense. Using this third sense, this experience would also feel the past and future essense of each living thing within his range.
Remember, according to Seth these Inner Senses are used by the whole self constantly. Since past , present, and future have no basic reality, this sense allows us to see through the apparent time barriers. We are seeing things as they really are. Any precognitive experience would entail the use of this Inner Sense. It is often used spontaneously when Psy-Time is practiced.

The Conceptual Sense

The fourth Inner Sense involves direct cognition of a concept in much more than intelectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely. Concepts have what we will call electrical and chemical composition [as thoughts do]. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into [those of] the concept, which is then directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any living thing unless you can become that thing.
You can best achieve some kind of aproximation of an idea by using Psychological Time [as a preliminary]. Sit in a quite room. When an idea comes to you, do not play with it intelectually, but reach out to it intuitively. Do not be afraid of unfamiliar phycological sensations. With practice and to a limited degree, you will find that you can 'become' the idea. You will be inside it, looking out-not looking in.
Concepts such as I am referring to reach beyond your ideas of time and space. If you become proficient in the use of the third Inner Sense [perception of past, present and future] when cognition is more or less spontaneous, then you can utilize the conceptual sense with more freedom. Any true concept has it's origins outside of your camouflage system and continues beyond it. Unless you use the Inner Senses in this manner, you will only recieve a glimmering of a concept, regardless of its simplicity.

Cognition Of Knowledge Essense

Remember that these Inner Sense operate on the whole, working together smoothly, and that to some degree the divisions between them are arbitrary on my part. This fifth sense differs from the fourth [conceptual sense] in that is does not involve cognition of a concept. It is similar to the fourth sense in that it is free from past, present, and future, and involves an intimate becomming, or transformation of self into something else.
This is difficult to explain. You attempt to understand a friend by using your physical senses. Use of this fifth sense would enable you to enter into your friend. In its fullest sense, it is not available to you within your system. It does not imply that one entity can control another. It involves direct instantaneous cognition of the essence of living 'tissue'. I use the word 'tissue' with caution and ask you not to think of it necessarily in terms of flesh.
All entities are in one way or another enclosed within themselves, yet also connected to others. Using this sense, you penetrate through the capsule that encloses the self. This Inner Sense, like all others, is being used constantly by the inner self, but very little of the data recieved is sifted through the subconscious or ego. Without the use of this sense, however, no man would ever come close to undrestanding mother. This sense is a strong version of the inner vibrational touch.

Inner Knowledge Of Basic Reality

This is an extremely rudimentary sense. It is concerned with the entity's innate working knowledge of the basic vitality of the universe, without which no manipulation of vitalitty would be possible-as, for example, you could not stand up straight without first having an innate sense of balance.
Without this sixth sense and its constant use by the inner self, you could not construct the physical camouflage universe. You can compare this sense with instincts, as you think of it, although it is concerned with innate knowledge of the entire universe. Particular data about specific areas of reality are given to a living organism to make manipulations within that area possible. The inner self has at its command complete knowledge, but only portions are used by an organism. A spider, spinning its web, is using this sense in almost its purest form. The spider has no intellect or ego, and its activities are pure spontaneous uses of the Inner Senses, unhampered and uncamouflaged to a great extent. But inherent in the spider, as in man, is the complete comprehension of the universe as a whole.
Seth always maintains that the answers to our questions about reality lie within us. They reveal themselves to us when we turn our attention away from physical data and look inward; this is when the sixth Inner Sense comes into play. It also shows itself in inspirations, and episodes of spontaneous "knowing". This sense gives rise to most experiences of a revelationary character.
The trouble is that we must somehow translate the data into terms that we can understand, explaining it verbally or with images-and distortions are bound to result. Some such experiences can't be expressed physically, yet the individual concerned is convinced of their validity.

Expansion of Contraction Of The Tissue Capsule

This sense operates in two ways. It can be an extension or enlargement of the self, a widening of its boundaries and of concsious comprehension. It can also be a pulling together of the self into an ever-smaller capsule that enables the self to enter other systems of reality. The tissue capsule surrounds each consciousness and is actually an energy field boundary, keeping the inner self's energy from seeping away.
No consciousness exists in any system wihtout this capsule enclosing it. These capsules have aslo been called astral bodies. The seventh Inner Sense allows for an expansion or contraction of this tissue capsule.

Disentanglement From Camouflage

Complete disentanglement from cmouflage comes rarely within your system, although it is possible to achieve it, particularly in connection with Psychological Time. When Psychological Time is utilized to its fullest extents, then camouflage is lessened to an astounding degree. With disentanglement, the inner self disentangles itself from one particular camouflage before it either adopts another set smoothly or dispenses with camouflage entirely. This is accomplished through what you might call a changing of frequencies or vibrations: a transformation of vitality from one particular pattern or aspect to another. In some ways, your dream world gives you a closer experience with basic inner reality than does your waking world, where the Inner Senses are so shielded from your awareness.

Diffusion By The Energy Personality

An energy personality who wishes to become a part of your system does so using this sense. The energy personality first diffuses himself into many parts. Since entry into your plane or system, as a member of it, cannot be made in any other manner, it must be made in the simplest terms, and later built up-sperm, or course, being an entry in this respect. The energy of the personality must then be recombined.
What Seth is saying here is that the inner self uses this sense to initiate the birth of one of its personalities in physical life. It may also have a part to play in some mediumistic activities on the part of the surviving personality who wishes to communicate, and it may be used in out-of-body experiences that involve other than physical reality.

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A Seth tribe, about time!

Johnnyis — Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:19:31 GMT

I'm not sure how many times I've searched the tribes with the keyword "Seth" to come up with nothing. Couldn't believe there weren't folks of a Sethian bent floating around Tribe.net. Was beginning to think I'd have to start a Seth tribe myself soon. Was happily surprised to see this tribe pop up on this last search.

So, thanks for starting this tribe! Hopefully it will grow and grow.

As for an introduction, I'm Johnny, 24 years old, currently a resident of Eugne, OR. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in northern California, my small town of just over 1000 folks was fortunate enough to get a used bookstore at some point in my early teens. The owners were eccentric and carried a lot of interesting stuff. At some point I picked up Seth Speaks for whatever reason. It sat on my shelf for 4 or 5 years until I picked it up when I was 19 and kapow! It changed my world. It was a few years before I went further with Seth, but eventually picked up the nature of personal reality, loved it, and started reading more material as what I'd picked up became more ingrained into my outlook on the world and effected my daily life.

I recently finished up The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events, and have to say personally it was one of the most profound works since I first discovered Seth. I never really thought about the fact that Seth was over the course of his books working up to bigger ideas and leading us somewhere. But wow. I just picked up Vol 1 & 2 of Dreams, Evolution, and Value Fulfillment, which some after Mass Events, and am looking forward to seeing what's next.

Anyhow, didn't mean to go on and on like that!

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Simultaneous Self Revealed

evil_fish — Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:46:01 GMT

Last night I dreamed I traveled a lot, by plane. I ended up in Tanzania and had to wait in line with all the other persons on the flight. At first the line was just kind all over, blocking the street then someone cooerced us into an "official" line and the inspections began. I was near the end. There were two "inspectors" going down the line performing various physical proddings upon the members of the lines. No one seemed to get hurt, but I dreaded the inspection and was looking for anyway to get out of it. When all of a sudden someone else had a flip-out farther down the line and the line inspectors moved past me to attend to inspecting that person immediately. I was relieved and the line moved forward into a cooler building where people were refreshing themselves. I got the impression that all these people were actors, of different ages. And I thought, how can you "reherese" a scene such as this when it just needs to unfold as it happens. It seems that this room was the lobby of the hotel where I was staying and I skipped the refreshments and headed up to my room. No sooner had I put my things on the bed there was a knock at the door and the two inspectors came right in without my permission. Their skin was golumn like, it was fairly translucent and you could see their blue veins inside quite easily. They obviously enjoyed their job too well. They said they had to inspect my cervix. I flipped out and in my dream I imagined my self on a stage, topless only in my panties with a rubber glove being snapped against my vagina. Like the inspection was going to be some performance for a greater audience. Then I flashed back the hotel room and the inspectors and I woke up.

Generally I don't dream about being female, but this is quite a break through for me. I feel like I have finally found another one of my simultaneous selves. I don't have a name for her, but I did like being her, despite the stressfull situation. She seemed to be well balanced and have a sense of humor.

Does anyone else ever have cross gender dreams?

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Seth FAQ

evil_fish — Sat, 03 Jul 2004 04:04:29 GMT

· Who Is Seth?

Seth is an entity that was channeled for many years by Jane Roberts. The weekly sessions were recorded by her husband Robert Butts.

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· Why should I care?

The Seth Material is the most advanced description of what life is like outside of life. If you every wondered what it is like after you die, read the Seth Material.

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· What is the main point?

Stated over and over by Seth is the phrase "You make you own reality."

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· Are there any sub-points?

A major sub-point to "You make your own reality" is that time is simultaneous.

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· How can this help me?

There are many books and several of the books focus on specific areas that may help you. There is a book on health, your realtionship with the world, the nature of your own personal reality as well as approaches to living.

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· How does reincarntion/karma fit into this?

Seth touches on reincarnation in several of the books. But mainly states that because time is simultaneous, all reincarnational lives are simultaneous. This means there is no Karmic debt to be paid.

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· How does sin fit into this?

There is no such thing as sin. Sin is a belief that we adopt in this reality, generally given, thrust upon us, by society and family.

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· What do you mean by "Belief"?

The deffinition of a "Belief" is described in great detail in the book "The Nature Of Personal Reality." A belief can be thought of as a building block of reality. There are beliefs and invisible beliefs. An inivisible belief is something that we have so taken for granted that is appears to be an aspect of reality. Non-invisible beliefs are beliefs that we hold about reality. Such as "I belief that mankind is generally savage and can't be trusted." This is a belief about reality. An invisible belief would be much deeper, like the fact that objects are solid and my hand can not pass through them.

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· Where can I get the books?

These books can be found on line at Amazon.com.

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